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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 21:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who ever says that you cannot get fake money from ATM in Xi&#039;an, China is wrong.  I got 1,200 from the ATM and I used all of it except 500 yuan.  These five 100 yuan bills are fake.  It is true that an ATM can give you fake money.  I am in Beijing right now and I will be taking this problem up with the U.S. embassy.  That is a lot of money that I got taken from me and I will get my money back in some way.  Always check your money when you get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who ever says that you cannot get fake money from ATM in Xi&#8217;an, China is wrong.  I got 1,200 from the ATM and I used all of it except 500 yuan.  These five 100 yuan bills are fake.  It is true that an ATM can give you fake money.  I am in Beijing right now and I will be taking this problem up with the U.S. embassy.  That is a lot of money that I got taken from me and I will get my money back in some way.  Always check your money when you get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 03:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TE61925810 I got one of these too, because this paper is reject by auto saving machine.  i JUST GOOGLE the number on the internet to check wether i got a fack 100rmb or not, then I find this page..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TE61925810 I got one of these too, because this paper is reject by auto saving machine.  i JUST GOOGLE the number on the internet to check wether i got a fack 100rmb or not, then I find this page..</p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 03:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 days ago i withdrew 2000rmb from a bank of communications atm and 2 of the 20 100rmb bills i got were fake.

i am trying to get reimbursed. haven&#039;t succeeded yet. 

the atm is on linyedaxuebei lu, haidian district beijing. it is in the university area of beijing, just north of beijing forestry university.

serial number on both fakes is TE61925810.

anyone else get these? 

x0123x0123@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 days ago i withdrew 2000rmb from a bank of communications atm and 2 of the 20 100rmb bills i got were fake.</p>
<p>i am trying to get reimbursed. haven&#8217;t succeeded yet. </p>
<p>the atm is on linyedaxuebei lu, haidian district beijing. it is in the university area of beijing, just north of beijing forestry university.</p>
<p>serial number on both fakes is TE61925810.</p>
<p>anyone else get these? </p>
<p><a href="mailto:x0123x0123@gmail.com">x0123&#215;0123@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 01:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know quite a few people who got fake bills out of atms in china in 2007.
A lot of local got fake bills and the bank wouldn&#039;t do anything about it.
It was especially frequent on bank of china atms

The ton of fake bills stopped after a bunch of televised investigations resulting in the busting of a large scale counterfeiting operation.

My opinion is that real chinese money is too easy to counterfeit, even real money has a cheapish feel to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know quite a few people who got fake bills out of atms in china in 2007.<br />
A lot of local got fake bills and the bank wouldn&#8217;t do anything about it.<br />
It was especially frequent on bank of china atms</p>
<p>The ton of fake bills stopped after a bunch of televised investigations resulting in the busting of a large scale counterfeiting operation.</p>
<p>My opinion is that real chinese money is too easy to counterfeit, even real money has a cheapish feel to it</p>
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		<title>By: nicklas bergner</title>
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		<dc:creator>nicklas bergner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BEN!

I belive you it has happend to me and my friends , it is always bank of china . i been living in china for 6 years and this happend 3 times to me. i know it is the atm since i always remember the 3 last numbers in the serial number on the bill. I have talked to bank of china but ofcourse they say i got the money from somewhere else . (what else would they say...) But an other problem i had 4 times is when i try to withdrawal money from my oversea visa card the money got sent over to the ATM and then i can hear the ATM counting  the money and suddenly there is an message comming up transaction faild, so i feel strange . i take the customer advice and phone my bank up in Sweden they fax over an statement proving that the money that i tryed to withdrawal has been payed out by the bank of china ATM . so with those two papers i go to the bank talking to the staff and they say that it is not the bank of china problem , the problem must be in the Swedish bank ..And after talking to the bank in sweden i go back to the bank of china trying get my money back , they say that if there been an misstake the money will be sent back to my account in 3 working days . but no money came . this happend 3 times and every singel time i lost my money . Today the same problem happend again. this time 2500rmb . the bank was closed so i could not deal with it today .I guess that the problem is when i use an oversea card and try to withdrawal money . the monitor say enter amount so i type in the amount then the ATM dials up my bank an the money is sent to that ATM , after that the ATM computer counts the money ,the ATM computer discover that there is not enugh money in the ATM and the transaction is rejected .But the ATM does not know how to send back the money to my oversea acccount .So the money got stock in the ATM. Again everytime i got told to wait 3 days and the money will be returned, but it does not happend !
If anyone had this problem please let me know ! 

chinadragontrade@yahoo.com 

cheers Nicklas Bergner /Guang zhou China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEN!</p>
<p>I belive you it has happend to me and my friends , it is always bank of china . i been living in china for 6 years and this happend 3 times to me. i know it is the atm since i always remember the 3 last numbers in the serial number on the bill. I have talked to bank of china but ofcourse they say i got the money from somewhere else . (what else would they say&#8230;) But an other problem i had 4 times is when i try to withdrawal money from my oversea visa card the money got sent over to the ATM and then i can hear the ATM counting  the money and suddenly there is an message comming up transaction faild, so i feel strange . i take the customer advice and phone my bank up in Sweden they fax over an statement proving that the money that i tryed to withdrawal has been payed out by the bank of china ATM . so with those two papers i go to the bank talking to the staff and they say that it is not the bank of china problem , the problem must be in the Swedish bank ..And after talking to the bank in sweden i go back to the bank of china trying get my money back , they say that if there been an misstake the money will be sent back to my account in 3 working days . but no money came . this happend 3 times and every singel time i lost my money . Today the same problem happend again. this time 2500rmb . the bank was closed so i could not deal with it today .I guess that the problem is when i use an oversea card and try to withdrawal money . the monitor say enter amount so i type in the amount then the ATM dials up my bank an the money is sent to that ATM , after that the ATM computer counts the money ,the ATM computer discover that there is not enugh money in the ATM and the transaction is rejected .But the ATM does not know how to send back the money to my oversea acccount .So the money got stock in the ATM. Again everytime i got told to wait 3 days and the money will be returned, but it does not happend !<br />
If anyone had this problem please let me know ! </p>
<p><a href="mailto:chinadragontrade@yahoo.com">chinadragontrade@yahoo.com</a> </p>
<p>cheers Nicklas Bergner /Guang zhou China</p>
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		<title>By: LT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lilly,
你好傻。银行和银行工作人员最坏。你知道他们肯定查一般的客人的100块，不过他们也受了他们的‘朋友’的钱。是从这里他们就送给一般般的客人那种假钱。

The source of the counterfeit money is from interbank and large cash exchanges accepted by the banks. This is in contrast to the meticulous checking by the tellers when receiving money from normal customers.

There is no &quot;running of the bills&quot; thru the bill checker before placing the cash in the ATMs. Thus the occasional corruption in banks gets transferred to poor unprotected individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lilly,<br />
你好傻。银行和银行工作人员最坏。你知道他们肯定查一般的客人的100块，不过他们也受了他们的‘朋友’的钱。是从这里他们就送给一般般的客人那种假钱。</p>
<p>The source of the counterfeit money is from interbank and large cash exchanges accepted by the banks. This is in contrast to the meticulous checking by the tellers when receiving money from normal customers.</p>
<p>There is no &#8220;running of the bills&#8221; thru the bill checker before placing the cash in the ATMs. Thus the occasional corruption in banks gets transferred to poor unprotected individuals.</p>
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		<title>By: LT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s true, you&#039;re getting fakes from the ATM. Other &quot;Chinese&quot; friends have told me this has happened to them too. The Chinese you asked were either being defensive or also just can&#039;t believe it.

The other point also is that the switch may also have been done by the waitress. I had a waitress once point out to me how to give a 100 bill at a restaurant. She said, you say the last few digits of the serial number to the waitress and she confirms it, then takes it away. Making a switch hard.

You might think this much too paranoid, or bothersome, but it can be done very quickly in a few-second exchange and they actually are quite accustomed to it. I still don&#039;t though, the trusting fool that I am. I check every 50 note though, and sometimes hand it back just for the heck of it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s true, you&#8217;re getting fakes from the ATM. Other &#8220;Chinese&#8221; friends have told me this has happened to them too. The Chinese you asked were either being defensive or also just can&#8217;t believe it.</p>
<p>The other point also is that the switch may also have been done by the waitress. I had a waitress once point out to me how to give a 100 bill at a restaurant. She said, you say the last few digits of the serial number to the waitress and she confirms it, then takes it away. Making a switch hard.</p>
<p>You might think this much too paranoid, or bothersome, but it can be done very quickly in a few-second exchange and they actually are quite accustomed to it. I still don&#8217;t though, the trusting fool that I am. I check every 50 note though, and sometimes hand it back just for the heck of it!!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The central Government needs to do their job to stop the counterfeit money.
Some policemen in FuZhou are not trustworthy....

Most of the counterfeit money come from Taiwan. Lots of fisherman from Taiwan transport the counterfeit RMB to China and sell it pennies on the dollar. Local authorithy is not doing their job....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The central Government needs to do their job to stop the counterfeit money.<br />
Some policemen in FuZhou are not trustworthy&#8230;.</p>
<p>Most of the counterfeit money come from Taiwan. Lots of fisherman from Taiwan transport the counterfeit RMB to China and sell it pennies on the dollar. Local authorithy is not doing their job&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve-
   I am not very good myself at catching fake money, but usually you can tell just by feeling it, especially on the bad fakes.  There are hundreds of different little tricks, and it seems like everybody has their own foolproof way to tell.  Best thing to do is ask a Chinese shop keeper to show you a few of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve-<br />
   I am not very good myself at catching fake money, but usually you can tell just by feeling it, especially on the bad fakes.  There are hundreds of different little tricks, and it seems like everybody has their own foolproof way to tell.  Best thing to do is ask a Chinese shop keeper to show you a few of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you tell it is counterfit? I am coming to China for the first time next week and wonder how I will tell if a bill is problematic. Such a basic question for you but one that eludes me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you tell it is counterfit? I am coming to China for the first time next week and wonder how I will tell if a bill is problematic. Such a basic question for you but one that eludes me.</p>
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