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		<title>By: Wen</title>
		<link>http://benross.net/wordpress/corruption-in-the-barber-shop/2007/05/20/comment-page-1/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator>Wen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog Ben! Now i&#039;m convinced that you are having a true China experience as corruption conducted in the most direct, un-concealed ways is just part and parcel of daily life in China not even worthy of an eye&#039;s blink (a Chinese saying or curious English? I&#039;ll let you decide)

Perhaps, its worth mentioning that most of the 当官的 in China have descended from another 当官的 and if thats not the case, you may want to bribe a 当官的 as a referee.  Also there are all sorts of bureaus/government offices in China, some are more &#039;profitable&#039; than others but most offer cushy jobs that pay well by local standards.  For example, my uncle in law works for 文明办 which translates directly into the Office of Civilised Behaviour - what do they actually do is a complete mystery.  While the existence of a 文明办 may demonstrate lack of accountability of tax payer&#039;s money and gross inefficiency, its actually considered a 清水衙门 meaning that it is a department where corruptive opportunities are rare.  As a general rule, jobs at 清水衙门 departments are not as desirable as those that present their employees with lots of oppotunities to extract that extra penny.  Other desirable governments jobs are with natural monopolies such as electricity / water suppliers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog Ben! Now i&#8217;m convinced that you are having a true China experience as corruption conducted in the most direct, un-concealed ways is just part and parcel of daily life in China not even worthy of an eye&#8217;s blink (a Chinese saying or curious English? I&#8217;ll let you decide)</p>
<p>Perhaps, its worth mentioning that most of the 当官的 in China have descended from another 当官的 and if thats not the case, you may want to bribe a 当官的 as a referee.  Also there are all sorts of bureaus/government offices in China, some are more &#8216;profitable&#8217; than others but most offer cushy jobs that pay well by local standards.  For example, my uncle in law works for 文明办 which translates directly into the Office of Civilised Behaviour &#8211; what do they actually do is a complete mystery.  While the existence of a 文明办 may demonstrate lack of accountability of tax payer&#8217;s money and gross inefficiency, its actually considered a 清水衙门 meaning that it is a department where corruptive opportunities are rare.  As a general rule, jobs at 清水衙门 departments are not as desirable as those that present their employees with lots of oppotunities to extract that extra penny.  Other desirable governments jobs are with natural monopolies such as electricity / water suppliers.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
		<link>http://benross.net/wordpress/corruption-in-the-barber-shop/2007/05/20/comment-page-1/#comment-1074</link>
		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2007 03:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You  know the old saying &quot; 当官的.&quot;  The word 官 has 2 mouths. &quot;口口&quot; For Corruption, Greed and Bribery. eating.. 吃 的.   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You  know the old saying &#8221; 当官的.&#8221;  The word 官 has 2 mouths. &#8220;口口&#8221; For Corruption, Greed and Bribery. eating.. 吃 的.   <img src='http://benross.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 16:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do u have this kinda thing in the west like in the united states? i knew some kinda similar things from hollywood movies and american series like prison break.but im not sure whether its true in american real society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do u have this kinda thing in the west like in the united states? i knew some kinda similar things from hollywood movies and american series like prison break.but im not sure whether its true in american real society.</p>
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		<title>By: Aley</title>
		<link>http://benross.net/wordpress/corruption-in-the-barber-shop/2007/05/20/comment-page-1/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Aley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 00:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Blog Ben and thanks for a fantastic insight into this completely corrupt country, a country where the doctor has to be bribed to deliver your baby with some kind of standard and Ben&#039;s writings shall be another message to everyone reading that this is why China will still be behind in another fifty years. Yes i&#039;m well aware we have corruption and misuse of power in the west but it is less ... how shall i put it , crude i think and arrogent.

Maybe because where i come from you just can&#039;t do or say that without getting your head kicked in even if you are from the government, and as i&#039;m sure you know goverment officials are not there to show off and abuse the power they may claim to have, a proper statesman would surely have err.. 正直的人 (moral integrity) ? and perhaps some kind of prowess in their government abilties, instead of lording it around his/her city with their big head and no brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Blog Ben and thanks for a fantastic insight into this completely corrupt country, a country where the doctor has to be bribed to deliver your baby with some kind of standard and Ben&#8217;s writings shall be another message to everyone reading that this is why China will still be behind in another fifty years. Yes i&#8217;m well aware we have corruption and misuse of power in the west but it is less &#8230; how shall i put it , crude i think and arrogent.</p>
<p>Maybe because where i come from you just can&#8217;t do or say that without getting your head kicked in even if you are from the government, and as i&#8217;m sure you know goverment officials are not there to show off and abuse the power they may claim to have, a proper statesman would surely have err.. 正直的人 (moral integrity) ? and perhaps some kind of prowess in their government abilties, instead of lording it around his/her city with their big head and no brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 14:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the research I&#039;ve been doing a lot of new business creators are faced with two options - 1) try to run a business by the law or 2)pay off and/or give bribes to officials in various forms.  This can include things as small as free haircuts, free meals, free drinks, so on.  Up to outright bribes so that they do not have to apply for/buy licenses and permits or pay full tax fees.  

Option #1 nearly always results in the business failing because the new business owners cannot afford all of the taxes and fees levied on them.  Or they cannot afford all the various permits and licenses (or bribes to secure them).  A lot of them can barely keep the business going even if they didn&#039;t have to go through all of these extra processes.

The crazy part is that the government is very aware of the toll that the bureaucracy takes on successful business and even on rule of law in regards to business practices in China.  Many of the documents that I have detailing these failed businesses are from a government department which profiled why women using one of their education programs succeeded or failed! 

However, I have to wonder how many go under because they end up giving away too much to too many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the research I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of new business creators are faced with two options &#8211; 1) try to run a business by the law or 2)pay off and/or give bribes to officials in various forms.  This can include things as small as free haircuts, free meals, free drinks, so on.  Up to outright bribes so that they do not have to apply for/buy licenses and permits or pay full tax fees.  </p>
<p>Option #1 nearly always results in the business failing because the new business owners cannot afford all of the taxes and fees levied on them.  Or they cannot afford all the various permits and licenses (or bribes to secure them).  A lot of them can barely keep the business going even if they didn&#8217;t have to go through all of these extra processes.</p>
<p>The crazy part is that the government is very aware of the toll that the bureaucracy takes on successful business and even on rule of law in regards to business practices in China.  Many of the documents that I have detailing these failed businesses are from a government department which profiled why women using one of their education programs succeeded or failed! </p>
<p>However, I have to wonder how many go under because they end up giving away too much to too many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 16:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The current reality in Chinese society is that if one exactly follows the rules (pay the full tax, buy fire extinguishers and replace them every two years, offer social and medical insurance to the employees), he definitely is not able to make money whatever business he is running. Such situation forces those private employers to kiss government officials’ ass with small benefit to exchange for bigger ones.

Why everyone in China today so eager to be a civil servant which only pays $ 250 per month, rather than a barbershop owner, who might make about $ 500 a month? Simply because the former position is at the top (or high level at least) of the social food chain. It is unnecessary for him to kiss others’ ass, except for a higher level official. Even if he must do so occasionally, he can use his social and public resource with his privilege, instead of his own money.

The worst thing ever happens to the barbershop owner, who represents the whole worker class, is neither the endless working hours nor the poor income. They are at the bottom of the society, having to kiss someone else’s ass to protect themselves and there is no way for them to change it. That’s the most pathetic thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The current reality in Chinese society is that if one exactly follows the rules (pay the full tax, buy fire extinguishers and replace them every two years, offer social and medical insurance to the employees), he definitely is not able to make money whatever business he is running. Such situation forces those private employers to kiss government officials’ ass with small benefit to exchange for bigger ones.</p>
<p>Why everyone in China today so eager to be a civil servant which only pays $ 250 per month, rather than a barbershop owner, who might make about $ 500 a month? Simply because the former position is at the top (or high level at least) of the social food chain. It is unnecessary for him to kiss others’ ass, except for a higher level official. Even if he must do so occasionally, he can use his social and public resource with his privilege, instead of his own money.</p>
<p>The worst thing ever happens to the barbershop owner, who represents the whole worker class, is neither the endless working hours nor the poor income. They are at the bottom of the society, having to kiss someone else’s ass to protect themselves and there is no way for them to change it. That’s the most pathetic thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 14:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corruption is nothing new in China.  A local software engineer in Fuzhou told me that the municipal police department threatened to jail him after he had worked hard for 2 years to build up some software applications for Internet Cafes in Fuzhou.  The reason?  The police said his software applications downloaded lots of porn flicks, which is against the law.  But according to this Chinese software engineer, some relative of the an official in the police department was in the same software business and wanted drive his competitor out of business.  As a result, this Chinese software engineer had to pay a hefty fine and shut down his service to Internet Cafes.  What a corrupt place that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corruption is nothing new in China.  A local software engineer in Fuzhou told me that the municipal police department threatened to jail him after he had worked hard for 2 years to build up some software applications for Internet Cafes in Fuzhou.  The reason?  The police said his software applications downloaded lots of porn flicks, which is against the law.  But according to this Chinese software engineer, some relative of the an official in the police department was in the same software business and wanted drive his competitor out of business.  As a result, this Chinese software engineer had to pay a hefty fine and shut down his service to Internet Cafes.  What a corrupt place that is.</p>
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		<title>By: James Chiang</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 02:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite agree with Dezza!</description>
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		<title>By: dezza</title>
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		<dc:creator>dezza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 00:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh this is a juicy topic. you forgot to add that the water department, police, health and safety dept, and a many other depts also get free stuff from businesses.

a hong kong tycoon once told reporters here that in order to start a hotel in mainland china one has to apply for 200 different permits with various departments.

as far as i&#039;m concerned, in china, the government IS the mob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh this is a juicy topic. you forgot to add that the water department, police, health and safety dept, and a many other depts also get free stuff from businesses.</p>
<p>a hong kong tycoon once told reporters here that in order to start a hotel in mainland china one has to apply for 200 different permits with various departments.</p>
<p>as far as i&#8217;m concerned, in china, the government IS the mob.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Barber Shop Antics &#124; Sinosplice: Life in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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