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		<title>By: RaMa0999</title>
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		<dc:creator>RaMa0999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 08:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately you had just added to the problem, rather than attempting to solve it. The bank is not punished at all, merely the teller for having to pay for her error out of her pocket.

Some of my friends are bank tellers and they worry every day about making such mistakes for fear of having to pay severely for their mistakes.  Meanwhile the bank CEOs are laughing it up in luxury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately you had just added to the problem, rather than attempting to solve it. The bank is not punished at all, merely the teller for having to pay for her error out of her pocket.</p>
<p>Some of my friends are bank tellers and they worry every day about making such mistakes for fear of having to pay severely for their mistakes.  Meanwhile the bank CEOs are laughing it up in luxury.</p>
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		<title>By: Thijs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thijs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Ben, I feel a bit better after reading your story. We got fake money from an ATM from Merchants Bank in Shenzhen and they just wouldn&#039;t believe it. They said they would look at the security camera.... yeah right. After we came back: still the same result. We didn&#039;t get our money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Ben, I feel a bit better after reading your story. We got fake money from an ATM from Merchants Bank in Shenzhen and they just wouldn&#8217;t believe it. They said they would look at the security camera&#8230;. yeah right. After we came back: still the same result. We didn&#8217;t get our money back.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 06:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don

What comment was removed?  I do not remove any comments unless they are obviously spam.  If you think your comment may have been accidentally removed, resubmit it, and I will make sure it shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don</p>
<p>What comment was removed?  I do not remove any comments unless they are obviously spam.  If you think your comment may have been accidentally removed, resubmit it, and I will make sure it shows.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Ben, sad that you removed my comment. T&#039;is a testament to your mettle as a man, unfortunately. Or, would that be a thief by any other name? The Human Condition. The Age of Immorality. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Ben, sad that you removed my comment. T&#8217;is a testament to your mettle as a man, unfortunately. Or, would that be a thief by any other name? The Human Condition. The Age of Immorality. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: LT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 04:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a pretty tough call. I like you, also cherish this opportunity to get back a little karmic retribution. In your description, did she ever say sorry, or at least ask real nicely? I know in a lot of cases, it&#039;s still a novelty for someone to interact with a foreigner, so this may have made her a little careless. In the same way, this is often used to take advantage of foreigners a lot.

I guess if I had the chance to send a last text message I would say this. 

&quot;I&#039;m really sorry about this as I think it was an honest mistake. Normally, I would return the money and it is hard for me not to. But speaking frankly, too many people in China have cheated me out of money, including banks. Rules, regulations or common decency did not protect me then, and so this is the case now for you. 

As you mentioned that as a customer if the same thing had happened to me, I could have returned and had things verified with a camera. In a similar spirit, I would like to ask the bank to please send me copies of all receipts for this interaction, a copy of the Banks Certificate of Business, a copy of your ID card, a copy of your employment contract, a tape of the videotaped interaction, a letter of testimonial from the bank manager about your request, your request in writing admitting your error, a copy of the written notification to the local public police bureau, a copy of the day&#039;s transactions and accounting, plus a copy of the written policy and procedures for this kind of incident, a copy of the national and local regulations that apply to this situation, and maybe a few words from a nice Chinese saying. Upon receiving all of this required documentation, I want to advise you also that there is a Y50 transaction fee, plus a Y20 transportation fee, a Y15 communication fee, and Y20 hassle fee, but other than that I will gladly return to you the Y100, and this Y100 cannot be run thru the checker machine. Please note that you can deposit directly to my account the necessary Y5 fee. My policy is to always provide the highest quality customer response to bank needs!

Sincerely yours.&quot;

....kinda long for a text message. ;p

(venting happily provided from a fellow receiver of fake bills, who does just really want to do the right thing, honestly!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pretty tough call. I like you, also cherish this opportunity to get back a little karmic retribution. In your description, did she ever say sorry, or at least ask real nicely? I know in a lot of cases, it&#8217;s still a novelty for someone to interact with a foreigner, so this may have made her a little careless. In the same way, this is often used to take advantage of foreigners a lot.</p>
<p>I guess if I had the chance to send a last text message I would say this. </p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m really sorry about this as I think it was an honest mistake. Normally, I would return the money and it is hard for me not to. But speaking frankly, too many people in China have cheated me out of money, including banks. Rules, regulations or common decency did not protect me then, and so this is the case now for you. </p>
<p>As you mentioned that as a customer if the same thing had happened to me, I could have returned and had things verified with a camera. In a similar spirit, I would like to ask the bank to please send me copies of all receipts for this interaction, a copy of the Banks Certificate of Business, a copy of your ID card, a copy of your employment contract, a tape of the videotaped interaction, a letter of testimonial from the bank manager about your request, your request in writing admitting your error, a copy of the written notification to the local public police bureau, a copy of the day&#8217;s transactions and accounting, plus a copy of the written policy and procedures for this kind of incident, a copy of the national and local regulations that apply to this situation, and maybe a few words from a nice Chinese saying. Upon receiving all of this required documentation, I want to advise you also that there is a Y50 transaction fee, plus a Y20 transportation fee, a Y15 communication fee, and Y20 hassle fee, but other than that I will gladly return to you the Y100, and this Y100 cannot be run thru the checker machine. Please note that you can deposit directly to my account the necessary Y5 fee. My policy is to always provide the highest quality customer response to bank needs!</p>
<p>Sincerely yours.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;.kinda long for a text message. ;p</p>
<p>(venting happily provided from a fellow receiver of fake bills, who does just really want to do the right thing, honestly!)</p>
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		<title>By: Woaizhongguo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woaizhongguo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s confusing reading blogs that use the same Wordpress template as me.  I am going to have to try and customise mine a bit.

Anyway, I once went to the back to withdraw 20,000 rmb.  When I got to the office i realised I had only one bundle (10,000 rmb) in my bag.  I was convinced I had dropped 10,000 rmb somehow along the way and was completely gutted.  What a waste, to simply throw away 10,000 rmb.  I could have had quite a nice bender with that.

Imagine my delight when my colleague came over and told me the bank just called and said I&#039;d left 10,000 rmb there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s confusing reading blogs that use the same Wordpress template as me.  I am going to have to try and customise mine a bit.</p>
<p>Anyway, I once went to the back to withdraw 20,000 rmb.  When I got to the office i realised I had only one bundle (10,000 rmb) in my bag.  I was convinced I had dropped 10,000 rmb somehow along the way and was completely gutted.  What a waste, to simply throw away 10,000 rmb.  I could have had quite a nice bender with that.</p>
<p>Imagine my delight when my colleague came over and told me the bank just called and said I&#8217;d left 10,000 rmb there!</p>
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		<title>By: Jaimie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaimie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, 
Great blog... I just started reading, and it was like a good book that I couldn&#039;t put down.  Of course, the highly controversial topic fueled by the diverse array of opinions also helped.

I&#039;m sure the bank puts up notices like that for the likes of men who would otherwise take advantage of the system by returning to the teller window and FALSELY demand for the missing 100 kuai the teller forgot to give or exchange the fake hundred that the teller mistakenly paid out.  If you were ever unfortunate enough to have had the same situation happened to you but in honest, then you bear the burden of the vices in others... in otherwards.... &quot;They ruined it for everyone else.&quot;  So I can understand a teller&#039;s support in the &quot;bank sign,&quot; as she doesn&#039;t know who to trust (so don&#039;t trust anyone).  I would hope tho that if you come into the bank everyday, and both you and the bank tellers have gotten to know each other, they would replace the 100 kuai based on their previous knowledge of you as an honest person, such that you especially are Ben. 

They can&#039;t be at fault for their mistreatment of you as they don&#039;t know who to trust, but you are fully award of the deed you&#039;ve done, so you should return the money to keep your integrity.  THEN, of course, fume about it profusely for the next couple of days even though you have done the right thing, meditate the whole thing out of your system, and get back to life while your brain tucks in away as a distant memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,<br />
Great blog&#8230; I just started reading, and it was like a good book that I couldn&#8217;t put down.  Of course, the highly controversial topic fueled by the diverse array of opinions also helped.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the bank puts up notices like that for the likes of men who would otherwise take advantage of the system by returning to the teller window and FALSELY demand for the missing 100 kuai the teller forgot to give or exchange the fake hundred that the teller mistakenly paid out.  If you were ever unfortunate enough to have had the same situation happened to you but in honest, then you bear the burden of the vices in others&#8230; in otherwards&#8230;. &#8220;They ruined it for everyone else.&#8221;  So I can understand a teller&#8217;s support in the &#8220;bank sign,&#8221; as she doesn&#8217;t know who to trust (so don&#8217;t trust anyone).  I would hope tho that if you come into the bank everyday, and both you and the bank tellers have gotten to know each other, they would replace the 100 kuai based on their previous knowledge of you as an honest person, such that you especially are Ben. </p>
<p>They can&#8217;t be at fault for their mistreatment of you as they don&#8217;t know who to trust, but you are fully award of the deed you&#8217;ve done, so you should return the money to keep your integrity.  THEN, of course, fume about it profusely for the next couple of days even though you have done the right thing, meditate the whole thing out of your system, and get back to life while your brain tucks in away as a distant memory.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment was too good not to translate.  Corrections always welcome.  By the way, the author&#039;s name is &quot;Ben is a piece of shit.&quot;
-Ben

Laozi saw a little bit of your blog.  You are a piece of shit.
Laozi wants to give you some free advice.
You motherfucking whore thigh
You motherfucker who isn’t happy with anything
How come Laozi never got fake money from a Bank of China ATM.  Laozi has never heard of fake money coming from an ATM eithr.
According to Laozi’s analysis
1.  You are unlucky.  You have dog shit luck.  You come across things that nobody else has come across.
2.  You’re bullshitting.  Everything is bullshit.  It’s all made up.
3. Other people think you’re especially stupid, so everybody is giving you fake money, otherwise there will be nobody else to give it to.
4.  Fuck your mother
5.  Fuck your girlfriend.  How you make friends with her?
6.  (no need to translate)
You get the fuck back to the US and fuck around.

Translation note: calling oneself Laozi is the Chinese way of saying “who’s your daddy?”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment was too good not to translate.  Corrections always welcome.  By the way, the author&#8217;s name is &#8220;Ben is a piece of shit.&#8221;<br />
-Ben</p>
<p>Laozi saw a little bit of your blog.  You are a piece of shit.<br />
Laozi wants to give you some free advice.<br />
You motherfucking whore thigh<br />
You motherfucker who isn’t happy with anything<br />
How come Laozi never got fake money from a Bank of China ATM.  Laozi has never heard of fake money coming from an ATM eithr.<br />
According to Laozi’s analysis<br />
1.  You are unlucky.  You have dog shit luck.  You come across things that nobody else has come across.<br />
2.  You’re bullshitting.  Everything is bullshit.  It’s all made up.<br />
3. Other people think you’re especially stupid, so everybody is giving you fake money, otherwise there will be nobody else to give it to.<br />
4.  Fuck your mother<br />
5.  Fuck your girlfriend.  How you make friends with her?<br />
6.  (no need to translate)<br />
You get the fuck back to the US and fuck around.</p>
<p>Translation note: calling oneself Laozi is the Chinese way of saying “who’s your daddy?”</p>
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		<title>By: 本是个贱货</title>
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		<dc:creator>本是个贱货</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>老子看了一遍你的博客，你他妈的一看就是个贱货
老子想送你的一句话就是
去你妈的妓大腿
你他妈的就是什么都看不惯
老子怎么就从来没有见过中国银行ATM机里面有假钞呢 老子从来就没有听说过ATM机里会有假钞
所以老子分析 
1。你人比较背，狗屎运，谁都遇不见的事情给你摊上了
2。你在放狗屁，都是胡编乱造
3。别人看你特别傻，所以人人都给你假钞，不给你给谁呀
4。操你妈
5。操你女朋友，这样的贱货朋友也交
6。Suck my dick
你就滚回你们美国乐去吧</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>老子看了一遍你的博客，你他妈的一看就是个贱货<br />
老子想送你的一句话就是<br />
去你妈的妓大腿<br />
你他妈的就是什么都看不惯<br />
老子怎么就从来没有见过中国银行ATM机里面有假钞呢 老子从来就没有听说过ATM机里会有假钞<br />
所以老子分析<br />
1。你人比较背，狗屎运，谁都遇不见的事情给你摊上了<br />
2。你在放狗屁，都是胡编乱造<br />
3。别人看你特别傻，所以人人都给你假钞，不给你给谁呀<br />
4。操你妈<br />
5。操你女朋友，这样的贱货朋友也交<br />
6。Suck my dick<br />
你就滚回你们美国乐去吧</p>
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		<title>By: Heilong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heilong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 21:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont worry ben its the chinese way, they know sometimes you win sometimes you lose, that day she lost. People are used to getting ripped off in china. Remember it is the girls mistake and thats how we learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont worry ben its the chinese way, they know sometimes you win sometimes you lose, that day she lost. People are used to getting ripped off in china. Remember it is the girls mistake and thats how we learn.</p>
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